It was fantastic!
Take the thirty minutes needed to sit back and listen to the complete podcast. Lileks is always interesting and Bay is good interviewer with a better-than-I-expected voice. The overarching focus of the interview were the media changes wrought by the rise of the world wide web. The discussion dovetailed nicely with a recent post from Dan Gillmor that caught my attention. It's on the rise of "citizen media" and contains ten points on the subject. His second point, that the traditional mainstream media seem to finally be getting the whole idea of the blogosphere/web/new media, etc., said this:
It’s been heartening to watch traditional media organizations, big and small, truly move into this arena. Oh, the vast majority of newspapers now have staff blogs, which is a good start, but the more forward-looking organizations are inviting their audiences to participate in the actual journalism — and that’s where this gets truly exciting.
So Le Monde offers reader blogs, and turns some new writers into online celebrities. The Ft. Myers (Florida) News-Press asks readers to help investigate city government, and gets superb results. Germany’s Bild newspaper asks readers to become “citizen papparazzi” — a questionable activity, in my view, given the privacy implications, but a move that again heralds the future. Sweden’s Aftonbladet offers a blog portal. Reuters has created a partnership with Global Voices Online to bring African blogging to a wider public.
I’m working formally and informally now with several organizations, on projects that could be wonderful if they succeed but which will certainly help us discover what works and what doesn’t. Experimentation — see below — is rife, in the professional and amateur ranks, and that is a wonderful thing.
James Lileks, I suspect, agrees that tremendous experimentation is taking place (he supervises a prime example of it with his new job at buzz.mn where he currently serves as lead editor for this effort by the Minneapolis Star-Tribune) but is probably more skeptical that traditional media are really "getting it." He clearly stated that everything was still shaking out, which is obviously true.
Let the revolution continue!